The Korherr Report

Published by carolyn on Tue, 2014-08-19 12:22

This is a translation of the Korherr Report in full posted by "Roberto" at the Axis History Forum. You can check it against the German original, which is also linked to. I have highlighted the parts most under discussion/debate in blue. ~CY

Post Number:#1  Postby Roberto on 18 Mar 2002, 19:44

A document often referred to on this forum, the Korherr Report should, in my opinion, be available online for consultation by all interested readers.

The report was prepared in two versions, a “long version” for Himmler and a “short version” for the Führer himself. The original German wording of both versions is transcribed under the following links:
http://www.ns-archiv.de/verfolgung/korherr/korherr-lang.php
(“long version”)

http://www.ns-archiv.de/verfolgung/korh ... kurz.shtml
(“short version”)

Transcriptions of Himmler’s a.m. letter to Korherr of 10.04.1943
and other accompanying documents can be found under the following link:
http://www.ns-archiv.de/verfolgung/korh ... icht.shtml

What follows is my translation of the "long version".

The Inspector for Statistics
At the Reichsführer SS

[Stamp: Secret Reich Matter]


THE FINAL SOLUTION OF THE EUROPEAN JEWISH QUESTION
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Statistical Report

C o n t e n t s:

I. Introduction
II. The Balance of Jews in Germany
III. Jewish Population Weakness
IV. The Emigration of Jews from Germany
V. The Evacuation of the Jews
VI. The Jews in the Ghettos
VII. The Jews in the Concentration Camps
VIII. Jews in Penitentiaries
IX. The Use of Jewish Labor
X. European Balance of Jews

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THE FINAL SOLUTION OF THE EUROPEAN JEWISH QUESTION
Statistical Report

I. INTRODUCTION

In order to make a balance of the results on the way to the solution of the Jewish question it is necessary to determine the number of Jews and its development. The contradictions in the data about the number of Jews, however, make necessary an introduction in the sense that numbers about Jewry are always to be taken with special reservation and can lead to wrong conclusions without a knowledge as to their source and as to how they came about.
The sources of mistakes lie mainly in the nature of Jewry and its historical development, in its millenary restless wandering, the countless admissions and withdrawals, the efforts at assimilation, the mixtures with the host peoples, the efforts of Jews to avoid registration and finally the wrong or wrongly interpreted statistics about Jewry.

Furthermore statistics – partially as a statistical makeshift, partially due to the wide coincidence between Jewish faith and Jewish race, partially in ignorance of the idea of race, partially due to the religious thinking of the respective time – have until lastly recorded Jews according to their religious confession and almost never according to their race. The recording of the race requires a training of many years and also ancestry research. It also turned out to be difficult mainly in the southern and eastern countries, given that despite all coincidence a uniform Jewish race was difficult to delimitate. The adhesion to Mosaic or Israeli faith in turn is no fully valid proof, given that due to the former Jewish missionary movement with its taking in of heathens and Christians, and also due to conversions to Jewry and mixed marriages in more recent times, there are not a few confessional Jews of non-Jewish race, while on the other hand forced christianizing and the number of baptized Jews that again increased in the last century, together with the number of non-confessionals of Jewish race, brought down the number of Jews. In 1893 Leroy-Beaulieu estimated the loss of Jewry to Christianity at four to ten times its present-day adherents; according to Maurice Fishberg and Mathias Mieses three time the actual number of Jews have merged with Aryan Europe. Even Hans Günther estimates the number of Jews in Germany at double the number of Jews of Mosaic faith who have German citizenship. The Lithuanian Jew Brutzkus even goes as far as to consider the Jews of Berlin as more pure Europeans, according to the composition of their blood, than the Germans of Berlin.

In accordance with these opinions the number of racial Jews including half-breeds in Europe has been frequently calculated as three times as high as that of the confessional Jews (twice as high in Eastern Europe, four times as high in Central Europe, even eight times as high in the rest of Europe), and the portion of more of less Jewish blood in the European population has been calculated at more or less 6 per cent. On the other hand Burgdörfer estimated the number of Jews in Germany in 1933 at 850 000 full, half and quarter Jews (with 502 799 confessional Jews) and the number of Jews in Austria in 1934 at 300-400 000 (with 191 738 confessional Jews). The recording of racial Jews at the German census on 1939 resulted in 307 892 confessional Jews and the only a little higher number of 330 892 full Jews, 72 738 half Jews and 42 811 quarter Jews, numbers that are by no means to be considered reliable especially in what concerns the half – and quarter Jews. The numbers obtained can thus only be considered as minimum numbers. They came about through the question “Was or is one of the 4 grandparents a full Jew?” contained in a “supplementary form” to the list of households of the 1939 census, which had to be answered by “yes” or “no” for each grandparent. As the supplementary form was to be delivered in a closed envelope and thus beyond control on site, it was wrongly filled in. In many cases only lines were drawn in the respective field, instead of an answer.

The first official attempt to record the Jews according to their race was immediately sabotaged by the Jews. It happened at the Austrian census of 7 March 1923. Vice Chancellor Dr. Frank (Greater German People’s Party) signed a decree shortly before the census, according to which under question 7 of the census sheet (language) "ethnicity and race" were also to be indicated. As the census sheets had already been printed, this was only pointed out in a red reminder sheet without clarification and examples. The Austrian Jews sabotaged this question pursuant to the request, forwarded to its readers by the Jewish-Marxist press on the day immediately before the census date, to answer the question about the race with “white”. The result was that “the “white race turned out to be as widely represented in Austria as the sphere of influence of the Jewish-Marxist press and political parties was”. Only in Kärnten and in the Burgenland the processing of the material was carried out with rather dubious success, in all other federal states and principally in Vienna, however, it was given up as being pointless.


II. THE BALANCE OF JEWS IN GERMANY

The following data about the number and development of Jews in Germany are based on official census data and other official records of the Reich and on scientific calculations and estimations, but they have mainly been prepared by the Reich Association of the Jews in Germany and by the cult communities in Vienna and Prague, who work with counting, counting forms for population movements, extrapolations and estimates. These Jewish entities work under the control of the Reichssicherheitshaupt [Reich Main Security Office] and for its purposes. Apart from the dubious data about the initial numbers the Reich Association of the Jews in Germany seems to produce reliable work. On the basis of the statistics prepared by this entity and so far checked by the Reichssicherheitshauptamt, the following balance on the development of Jewry from before the taking of power (30.1.1933 in the Old Reich, March 1938 in Austria and March 1939 in the Protectorate Bohemia and Moravia) until 01.01.1943 can be drawn:

1. Balance of Jews in the Old Reich including Sudetengau and Danzig
Number of Jews in the Old Reich(without Sudetengau
and Danzig)on 30.1.1933 around 561 000

Reduction between 30.1.33 an 1.1.43 through
Excess mortality(Old Reich ) - 61 193
Excess emigration - 352 534
Off-going (Evacuation) - 100 516
- 514 243

Increase from 30.1.33 to 1.1.43 through
Incorporation of the Sudeten-
Land + 2 649 x)
other changes (Danzig
immigration, emigration, authorized
withdrawals, recognition
as I. degree half breed,
new recording, rectification of data sheets
+ 1 921
+ 4 570

Number of Jews in the Old Reich (with Sudetengau
and Danzig) on 1.1.1943 51 327


2. Balance of Jews in the Ostmark[Austria]
Number of Jews in the Ostmark on 1.3.1938 around 220 000
Reduction from 1.3.38 to 1.1.43 through
Excess mortality - 14 509
Excess emigration - 149 124
Off-going (Evacuation) - 47 555
Other changes - 710
- 211 898

Number of Jews in the Ostmark on 1.1.1943 8 102


3. Balance of Jews in the Protectorate Bohemia and Moravia
Number of Jews in the Protectorate on 15.3.1943 118 310
Reduction from 15.3.39 to 1.1.43 through
Excess mortality - 7 074
Excess emigration - 26 009
Off-going (Evacuation) - 69 677
- 102 760

Number of Jews in the Protectorate on 1.1.1943 15 550


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x) This number of 2 649 Jews in the Sudetenland was established during the census of 1939. Prior to the incorporation of the Sudetenland into the Reich the number of Jews was around 3 . . who however very quickly, without crossing a state border and without losses in patrimony, left for the Protectorate.

In this balance the newly acquired eastern territories (except for Danzig) are not included. A balance for these cannot yet be made. However, there are several estimates about the number of Jews in these areas, which should lead to a number of about 630 000. In addition to these there are 160,000 Jews in the Bialystok district and around 1.3 million Jews in the General Government as at the time of its constitution. This would lead to a total number of Jews in the whole German area (without the occupied eastern territories) of about 2.5 million x) at the end of 1939, the greatest past thereof in the new East.

On 1.1.1943 the Reich without the new eastern territories, the old-age ghetto Theresienstadt and the labor usage within the scope of the
Organisation Schmelt had only 74 979 Jews, thereof 51 327 in
the Old Reich, 8 102 in the Ostmark and 15 550 in the Protectorate. In the Old Reich with the Sudetenland there are now only 9.2 per cent of the number of Jews on the day of the taking over of power. On 30.1.1943 their number has been further reduced to 48 242 or 8.6 per cent, on 25.2.1943 even further to 44 589 or 7.9 per cent. In Berlin, where already in 1880 there lived one-eighth, in 1910 more than a quarter and in 1933 almost a one third of the Jews of Germany, there are on 1.1.1943 no less than 32 999 or 64.3 per cent of all Jews of the Old Reich, on 30.1.1943 still 30 121, on 28.2.1943 still 27 281.
In the Ostmark there are Jews only in Vienna.

Of the 51 327 Jews in the Old Reich 23 197 are men and 28 130 are women.
40 351 are confessional Jews, 10 976 are non-confessional Jews, 16 760 live in mixed marriages. In the Ostmark the number is 4 803 (out of 8 102), in the Protectorate it is 6 211 (out of 15 550).


III. JEWISH POPULATION WEAKNESS

The balance of Jews in Germany shows an extraordinary excess mortality that is due not only to a very high mortality of the Jews, but also to the marked scarcity of births. Thus the natural population development in the Old Reich including the Sudetenland from 1933 to 1942 has been as follows (according to the estimates and date of the Reich Association of the Jews in Germany, given that the counting by confessional Jews is much more complicated and unreliable):

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x) Without Lemberg district with around 700 000 Jews.


Births and Deaths of Jews in the Old Reich
(calculated and estimated until 1939)

Years Births Deaths Excess mortality(-)

1933 3 425 8 925 - 5 500
1934 2 300 8 200 - 5 900
1935 2 500 8 100 - 5 600
1936 2 300 8 000 - 5 700
1937 2 100 8 000 - 5 900
1938 1 000 7 448 - 6 448
1939 610 8 136 - 7 526
1940 396 6 199 - 5 803
1941 351 6 249 - 5 898
1942 239 7 657 - 7 418

1933-1942 15 221 76 914 - 61 693

The excess mortality from the day of taking over of power (30.1.1933) until 1.1.1943 in the Old Reich including the Sudetenland is 61 693; this is the result of 14 921 births versus 76 114 deaths. While the migration on the one hand and the absence of recording in the first year and deficiency of recording since especially in regard to deaths in the concentration camps by the Reich Association of the Jews on the other hand leave room for many errors, the approximate overview shows a constant number of deaths despite the reduction of the number of Jews. Jewish mortality thus amounts to 80-85(against the European average of 10 to 15) in 1000 (in the calendar year 1942).
What is further to be noted is the decrease of births, which by far anticipates the decrease of the number of Jews. The Jewish birth rate in the Old Reich thus amounts to only 2 1/2 in 1 000 in 1942. Also in the Ostmark between 1.3.138 and 1.1.1943 there were 15 188 Jewish deaths for only 679 Jewish births. In the Old Reich there were only 14 Jewish children born in December 1942, 7 an 8 in January and February 1943, respectively. It must in this respect be taken into account that Jewry has topped the civilized Western states in lack of births since decades, as can be seen on hand of the confessional statistics of births. The Jew Felix Theilhaber already in 1911 pointed to the “Demise of German Jewry” resulting therefrom, which was only covered up by the constant influx of Eastern Jewish blood. This phenomenon was only partially related to the over-aging of European big city Jewry: It was mainly due to a real lack of life strength. In the actual extraordinary mortality of the Jews and the extremely low birth rate, however, the Jewish age structure is also a factor to be considered.
After their best classes have gone off, the Jews in Germany are mainly old people, for which reason their age structure, when graphically represented, has the form of a “club”, according to the objectively accurate terminology of the Reich Association of the Jews. There is a lack of children and reproductive classes, whereas the classes of older people are not only much stronger in proportion than the younger classes, but also much stronger in absolute numbers.
This is also one of the reasons for the excessive suicide rate, given that suicide is primarily a cause of death of older people.


IV. THE EMIGRATION OF JEWS FROM GERMANY

The migration of Jews from eastern, central and western Europe and the whole of Europe overseas, mostly to the United States of America, is a generally observed phenomenon. Many Jews emigrated from Germany mainly between 1840 and 1870, but after 1870 emigration stopped almost completely. Now in turn the Germans emigrated. The Jewish emigration from Germany since 1933, in a certain sense a recuperation of the movement that did not occur in 1870, caught the special attention of the whole civilized world, especially the democratic countries ruled by Jews. It was attempted by the most varied entities with the most varied methods to record the number and structure of the emigrants. Yet no uniform results were achieved. The numbers of the German emigration statistics, those of the Reich Association of the Jews in Germany and of the Israeli cult communities in Vienna and Prague, the numerous foreign recordings, calculations and estimates, the statistics of international Jewry and the numbers of scientific studies show great discrepancies among each other. Professor Zielenziger in Amsterdam, for instance, considered that there were 135 000 emigrants from the taking over of power until the end of 1937, while the Reich Association of the Jews concluded that there had been 203 000 emigrants. Since 1938 emigration increased considerably, but it ended almost completely (save for a few exceptions each month) with the interdiction of Jewish emigration in the autumn of 1941. The Reich Association of Jews and the Israeli cult communities in Vienna and Prague concluded on the following high emigration numbers until 1.1. 1943(including double counting):

Emigrants from Number Period
Old Reich with Sudetenland 352 543 (30.1.33-1.1.43)
Ostmark 149 124 ( 1.3.38-1.1.43)
Protectorate 26 009 (15.2.39-1.1.43)

The hurried emigration in the beginning made exact data impossible. Also the destination of emigration, insofar as it was a European country, is in many cases to be considered a mere intermediate station. Of the emigrants from the Old Reich about 144 000 went to other European countries, about 57 000 went to the USA, 54 000 to South America, 10 000 to Central America, 53 000 to Palestine, 15 000 to Africa(mainly South Africa), 16 000 to Asia (China),
4 000 to Australia. Of the 144 000 Jews who emigrated to European countries more than 32 000 went to England alone, 39 000 went to Poland or the General Government, 18 000 went to France, 8000 to Italy, 7 500 to the Netherlands,
6 000 to Belgium. It is to be assumed that the greater part of these emigrants went on overseas from said countries. For the Jewish emigrants from the Ostmark, the following goals were indicated: 65 500 to European countries, 50 000 to America, 20 000 to Asia, 9 000 to Palestine, 2 600 to Africa, 2 000 to Australia.


V. THE EVACUATION OF THE JEWS

The evacuation of the Jews replaced the emigration of the Jews, at least on the territory of the Reich. It was extensively prepared since the prohibition of Jewish emigration in the autumn of 1941 and to a large extent carried out throughout the Reich territory in the year 1942. In the balance of Jewry it is referred to as "off-going".
Until 1.1.1943, according to the records of the Reichssicherheitshauptamt, the following numbers went off:

From the Old Reich with Sudetenland 100 516 Jews
From the Ostmark 47 555 "
From the Protectorate 69 677 "
Sum 217 748 Jews

In these numbers the Jews evacuated to the old-age ghetto Theresienstadt are also included.

All evacuations on the territory of the Reich and including the eastern territories and further in the German area of power and influence in Europe from October 1939 or later until 31.12.1942 [Dec. 31, 1942 (3 yrs 3 mos) -cy] resulted in the following numbers:

1. Evacuation of Jews from Baden
and the Palatinate to France ....... 6 504 Jews
2. Evacuation of Jews from the Reich
territory incl. the Protectorate and
Bialystok district to the East ..... 170 642 "
3. Evacuation of Jews from the Reich
area and the Protectorate
to Theresienstadt........................ 87 193
4. Transportation of Jews from the eastern provinces to the Russian East: .....1 449 692 Jews
>>The following numbers were sifted through the camps in the General government ........ 1 274 166 Jews
>>through the camps in the Warthegau... 145 301 Jews
5. Evacuation from other countries, namely:
France (insofar as occupied before 10.11.1942) ... .................................41 911 Jews
Netherlands...............38 571   "
Belgium.................... 16 886    "
Norway ........................ 532    "

Slovakia...................  56 691 Jews
Croatia .....................  4 927    "
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Evacuations total (incl. Theresienstadt and incl.
special treatment)........... 1 873 549 Jews
w./o Theresienstadt........  1 786 356  "

6. In addition, according to data from the Reichssicherheitshauptamt there is the evacuation of... 633 300 Jews in the Russian territories incl. the former Baltic  countries since the beginning of the Eastern Campaign.

The above numbers do not include the inmates of ghettoes and concentration camps.
The evacuations from Slovakia and Croatia were carried out by these states themselves.


VI. THE JEWS IN THE GHETTOS

There must be mentioned here:

1. The old age ghetto Theresienstadt, to which there were
led a total of:
87 193 Jews,

thereof from the Reich 47 471 (Ostmark 14 222)
" " Protectorate 39 722.

At the beginning of the year 1943 it had a total of
Jewish inmates: 49 392
Thereof with
German nationality 24 313
Protectorate nationality 25 079

The reduction occurred mainly by deaths.
Besides Theresienstadt there are on the territory of the Reich a number of Jewish old age and sick homes with smaller capacity, which however are considered as neither ghettoes nor evacuation sites.

2. The ghetto Litzmannstadt at the beginning of 1943 had
87 180 Jews,
thereof 83 133 with former Polish nationality.

3. The numbers Jews placed in other ghettos of the
General Government as of 31.12.1942 are indicated or estimated
as follows:

District Number of Jews
Cracow 37 000
Radom 29 000
Lublin 20 000 (estimated)
Warsaw 50 000
Lemberg 161 514

General Gov. sum 297 914


VII. THE JEWS IN THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS

In the concentration camps there were, from the taking over of power to 31.12.1942
73 417 interments of Jews
thereof
released 36 943
died 27 347

Remainder as per 31.12.42: 9 127 Jews

It must be taken into account that the number of internments of Jews is higher than the number of Jews in the concentration camps, as repeated internments of one Jews are counted repeatedly.

Not included are the Jews accommodated in the concentration camps Auschwitz and Lublin within the scope of the evacuation action.

For the various concentration camps we have, divided by internments, releases, deaths and the status as of 31.12.1942, the following numbers:

Jews in the Concentration Camps

Concentration Camp; Internments; Releases; Deaths;
Status as of 31.12.1942

Lublin/Men; 23 409; 4 509; 14 217; 4 683
Lublin/Women; 2 849; 59; 131; 2 659
Auschwitz/Men 4 917; 1; 3 716; 1 200
Auschwitz/Women 932; -; 720 ; 212
Buchenwald 16 827; 13 805; 2 795; 227
Mauthausen/Gusen 2 064; -; 1 985; 79
Sachsenhausen 7 960; 6 570; 1 344; 46
Stutthof/Men 28; -; 13; 15
Stutthof/Women 3; -; -; 3
Ravensbrück/Women 1 321; 531; 787; 3
Ravensbrück/Men 273; 44; 229; -
Dachau 12 026; 11 140; 886; -
Groß-Rosen 231; -; 231; -
Lichtenburg 195; 195; -; -
Neuengamme 192; 2; 190; -
Floßenbürg 80; 2; 78; -
Sachsenburg 52; 52; -; -
Esterwegen 36; 33; 3; -
Niederhagen 12; -; 12; -
Natzweiler 10; -; 10; -

Sum all camps 73 417; 36 943; 27 347; 9 127


VIII. JEWS IN PENITENTIARIES

At the beginning of the year 1943 there were in the penitentiaries on the territory of the Reich 458 Jews, distributed among men and women and the various types of detention as follows:

Men Women Sum

Criminal detention 350 78 428
Security detention 29 - 29
Work House - 1´ 1

Penitentiaries
Together 379 79 458


IX. THE USE OF JEWISH LABOR

Working for the war effort at the beginning of the year 1943 there were on the territory of the Reich

185 776 Jews

They were employed as follows:

1) within the inspector areas of the security police and the SD (without Posen and without Soviet Russian Jews) 21 659, thereof 18 546 with German nationality, 107 with Protectorate nationality, 2 519 stateless and 487 foreigners. They were distributed by the inspection areas without Posen) as follows:

Berlin 15 100 Königsberg 2) 96
Braunschweig 110 München 313
Breslau 1) 2 451 Nürnberg 89
Danzig - Salzburg 7
Dresden 485 Stettin 18
Düsseldorf 673 Stuttgart 178
Hamburg 497 Wien 1 226
Kassel 259 Wiesbaden 139
__________
1) without Organization Schmelt 2)without Soviet Russian Jews

2) in the inspector area Königsberg there are a further
18 435 foreign, i.e. almost exclusively Soviet Russian Jews.

3) in the inspector area Posen there are in ghetto – and camp employment
95 112 mainly Polish Jews.

4) within the scope of Organization Schmelt (Breslau)
there are 50 570 Jews, thereof 42 382 stateless and 8 188
foreigners.


X. EUROPEAN BALANCE OF JEWS

The collapse of European Jewry was initiated decades ago by the population demise of European big city Jewry on the one hand and Jewish emigration on the other. The Jewish statistician Lestschinsky in 1927 clarified the reduction of European Jewry as follows: "At the beginning of the 19th century 85 % of all Jews lived in Europe, 80 % in Russia, Austria-Hungary and Germany alone; in America there were only 2 - 3 000 Jews at this time. In 1925 63 % of all Jews lived in Europe; within the borders of Germany, Austria-Hungary and Russia there were only 57 % of all Jews, while in America there were 30 % and in the rest of the world 7 %". According to the calculations of the Reich Institute of Statistics the part of European Jews in 1880 was even 88.4 per cent, while in 1937 it was only 60.4 per cent. In 1943 the European part of World Jewry should still be 1/3.

Around 1930 and in the last years the number of Jews in some more important European states was the following:


State;
Census in year;
Number of Jews;
More recent counting of estimate:
Number of Jews in 1 000;
per cent of population of host people

Old Reich; 1933/35; 502 799; 1943; 51; 0,07
Austria; 1934; 191 481; 1943; 8; 0,1
Czechoslovakia; 1930; 356 830; .; .; .
- Protectorate .; .; 1943; 16; 0,2
Danzig; 1929; 10 448; .; .; .
Memel Area; 1925; 2 402; 1937; 3; 2,0

Belgium; .; .; 1937; 80; 1,0
Bulgaria; 1934; 48 398; 1937; 50; 0,8
Finland .; .; 1937; 2; 0,04
France .; .; 1937; 280; 0,7
Greece 1928; 72 791; 1937; 90; 1,1
Great Britain 1931/33; 234 000; 1937; 345; 0,7
Italy 1930; 47 825; 1937; 52; 0,1

Ireland .; .; 1936; 4; 0,1
Yugoslavia 1930; 68 405; 1937; 75; 0,3
Latvia 1935; 93 479; 1937; 96; 4,9
Lithuania 1923; 155 125; 1937; 175; 7,4[%]
Netherlands 1930; 111 917; 1937; 135; 1,6
Poland 1930; 3 113 933; 1937; 3 300; 9,6[%]
Romania 1930; 984 213; 1941; 302 1); 2,2
Slovakia .; .; 1940; 89; 3,4
Soviet Russia 1926; 2 570 330; 1939; 4 600 2); 2,4
Hungary 1930; 444 567; 1940; 750 3); 5,8[%]

__________
1) New territorial status
2) New territorial status, with East Poland; the number was estimated.
3) New territorial status; the number was calculated

The total number of Jews in the world in 1937 is generally estimated at around 17 million, thereof more than 10 million in Europe. They concentrate or concentrated mainly in the former Polish-Russian areas occupied by Germany between the Baltic Sea and the Gulf of Finland and between the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov, further in the centers of commerce and the Rhine area of Central and Western Europe and on the coasts of the Mediterranean.

From 1937 to the beginning of 1943 the number of Jews, partially due to the excess mortality of the Jews in Central and Western Europe, partially due to the evacuations especially in the more strongly populated Eastern Territories which are here counted as off-going, should have diminished by an estimated 4 million. It must not be overlooked in this respect that of the deaths of Soviet Russian Jews in the occupied Eastern territories only a part was recorded, whereas deaths in the rest of European Russia and at the front are not included at all. In addition there are movements of Jews inside Russia to the Asian part which are unknown to us. The movement of Jews from the European countries outside the German influence is also of a largely unknown order of magnitude. On the whole European Jewry should since 1933, i.e. in the first decade of National Socialist German power, have lost almost half of its population.

Comments

That matter of the movement of Jews inside the USSR is of course elaborated in Walter Sanning's The Dissolution of Eastern European Jewry. On the eve of Operation Barbarossa the number of Jews under German rule or under the rule of governments allied with Germany was supposed to be roughly 3¼ million. The question of whether the number of Jews that ever came within the Third Reich's grasp even reached 6 million depends entirely on the extent of these migrations. Sanning argues that those migrations were very substantial.

It's more clear to me now just how David Cole forces his interpretation of this report.

This is David Cole:  Korherr states that “From 1937 to the beginning of 1943, the number of Jews in Europe has diminished by an estimated 4 million, partially due to 1) emigration, partially due to the 2) excess mortality of the Jews in Central and Western Europe, partially due to the 3) evacuations, especially in the more strongly populated Eastern Territories, die hier als Abgang gerechnet werdenwhich (which are here counted as departed).”

This is "Roberto's" translation:  From 1937 to the beginning of 1943 the number of Jews, partially due to the excess mortality of the Jews in Central and Western Europe, partially due to the evacuations especially in the more strongly populated Eastern Territories which are here counted as off-going, should have diminished by an estimated 4 million.

This is the German:  Von 1937 bis Anfang 1943 dürfte die Zahl der Juden in Europa teils durch Auswanderung, teils durch den Sterbeüberschuß der Juden in Mittel- und Westeuropa, teils durch die Evakuierungen vor allem in den völkisch stärkeren Ostgebieten, die hier als Abgang (leaving) gerechnet werden, um schätzungsweise 4 Millionen zurückgegangen (decreased) sein.

Sounds like it's saying these Jews were no longer in the Reich, but outside of the Reich. Nowhere are the camps Belzec, Sobibor and Treblinka mentioned. This Korherr Report is even weaker than I thought it was. Again, am I missing something?

I translated it again in other words and gave an explanation for certain terms. It's probably not perfect English but I hope this helps.
 
From 1937 to early 1943, the number of Jews in Europe ought to be accounted for as decreased (de-recognized= accounting) by 4 million, partly through emigration, partly through a decease surplus of the Jews in Central- and Western Europe, partly through evacuation, most notably in the more heavily populated Eastern territories.
 
Abgang is used in accounting to state a decrease of items or assets, or statistics to indicate a decrease. Abgang may also mean death, but since this is a statistic that includes emigration, evacuation and number of deaths, it is certainly clear that it does not conclude 4 million deaths in total, but a decrease of Jews in Europe including passed on Jews. Abgang (decrease) and gerechnet (accounted) are in immediate correlation, so it definitely means accounted decrease not death. Speaking of deaths, Sterben (Sterbe-) is used here separately. 
 
It takes into consideration the net negative birth rate (death surplus) but only in Central- and Western Europe. So whatever the negative net number of the birth rate is (which does not include the Eastern territories that most likely have a stable net birth rate since it is not counted as loss or gain, it is the only loss by death they speak of here). The rest of the statistic counts for emigration and evacuation not deaths. So, it should be looked into the death certificate records vs birth certificate records of Central- and Western Europe to figure out what the difference is. Also, it should be defined where Central Europe begins and the Eastern territories continue to define the landmass in question.
 
http://www.dict.cc/?s=Abgang
  

What you show is the complexity of it in contrast to David Cole's insistence that it's a simple, straightforward matter and clear as a bell! Haha.

One thing to keep in mind, which I noted in the Luther Memorandum, is that Auswanderung seems to be used only to refer to leaving Europe entirely (for example, as Korherr says, going to the United States). Relocation to a special territory in far eastern Europe (called by Luther eine territoriale Lösung, in contradistinction to Auswanderung), although we might call it emigration in English, is not called Auswanderung in the bureaucratic German of that period. So, the rendering of Auswandering as emigration really needs an asterisk and a note, or to be rendered as emigration from Europe, if it is not to cause confusion. I think it probably has caused a lot of confusion.

Carolyn:

Sounds like it's saying these Jews were no longer in the Reich, but outside of the Reich.

Correct.

Nowhere are the camps Belsen, Sobibor and Treblinka mentioned. This Korherr Report is even weaker than I thought it was. Again, am I missing something?

You are right, the report is exremely weak evidence for any genocidal policy. The Reinhardt camps are mentioned implicitly as "the camps in the General government":

4. Transportation of Jews from the eastern provinces to the Russian East: ............................ 1 449 692 " The following numbers were sifted through the camps in the General government ............. ........ 1 274 166 Jews through the camps in the Warthegau..... 145 301 Jews

This is how the passage should look like with original text formatting:
4. Transportation of Jews from the
eastern provinces to the Russian
East: ............................ 1 449 692 "
The following numbers were sifted
through the camps in the General
government ............. ........ 1 274 166 Jews
through the camps in the Warthegau..... 145 301 Jews

And here the German source:
4. Transportierung von Juden aus den
Ostprovinzen nach dem russischen
Osten: ............................1 449 692 "
Es wurden durchgeschleust
durch die Lager im General-
gouvernement..................... 1 274 166 Juden
durch die Lager im Warthegau..... 145 301 Juden [2]

This passage appears only in the long version:
http://www.ns- archiv.de/verfolgung/korherr/korherr-lang.php
It seems the formatting of the text somehow got lost in the translation / copying process. Note that in the original the two items of the Jews who were transported through the camps in the General government and the Jews who were transported through the camps in the Warthegau are indented with a tab stop. The Jews who were transported through the camps in the General government and through the Warthegau are obviously a subset (the majority) of the Jews from the eastern provinces who were transported to the Russian East. Not additional items. The numbers don't add up completely, but that isn't a problem. Obviously a few Jews were transported to the east without going through the Reinhardt camps.

So where it reads "sifted through the camps in the General-Government", that means B-S-T, which number is 1,274,166. Okay, but I don't see the number 2,419,656 anywhere (for the famous 2.4 million) and when I add up the numbers listed, it doesn't come to that in any combination. Do you know where that number comes from?

I improved the formatting somewhat where you mentioned it.

Carolyn:

I improved the formatting somewhat where you mentioned it.

Yes, that's better. My formatting somehow isn't displayed correctly. In the preview it looked alright. Strange. It seems that Drupal is a bit more tricky in this regard than WordPress.
Two more attempts:
4. Transportierung von Juden aus den Ostprovinzen nach dem russischen Osten: ............................1 449 692 " Es wurden durchgeschleust durch die Lager im General- gouvernement..................... 1 274 166 Juden durch die Lager im Warthegau..... 145 301 Juden [2]
4. Transportation of Jews from the eastern provinces to the Russian East: ............................ 1 449 692 " The following numbers were sifted through the camps in the General government ............. ........ 1 274 166 Jews through the camps in the Warthegau..... 145 301 Jews
4. Transportierung von Juden aus den     Ostprovinzen nach dem russischen     Osten: ............................1 449 692 "         Es wurden durchgeschleust         durch die Lager im General-         gouvernement..................... 1 274 166 Juden         durch die Lager im Warthegau..... 145 301 Juden [2]
4. Transportation of Jews from the     eastern provinces to the Russian     East: ............................ 1 449 692 "         The following numbers were sifted         through the camps in the General         government ............. ........ 1 274 166 Jews         through the camps in the Warthegau..... 145 301 Jews
Carolyn:

So where it reads "sifted through the camps in the General-Government", that means B-S-T, which number is 1,274,166. Okay, but I don't see the number 2,419,656 anywhere (for the famous 2.4 million) and when I add up the numbers listed, it doesn't come to that in any combination. Do you know where that number comes from?

There's an interesting thread about this question on the CODOH forum:
Irving's 'holocaust' lite / but what '2.4 million document'? http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=4548
There's a reference to a guardian article with quotes from David Irving:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/farright/story/0,,2179842,00.html
Some quotes from the article:

Last night, news of his attempts to kickstart his career were met with disbelief and anger from Jewish groups and political opponents. Lord Foulkes, of the Labour Friends of Israel, said: "It is a frightening thought that he is still pursuing his agenda." Jon Benjamin, chief executive of the Board of Deputies, said Mr Irving no longer had any legitimate claim to be a serious historian. However, Mr Irving still insists he is a respected academic. He says that a document, which he is 80% sure is genuine, suggests that 2.4 million Jews were killed in Poland, but goes on to claim that the gas chamber at Auschwitz was fake. "It was not the centre of the killing operations - it has only become a focus because it is the site that is best preserved. Much of what is shown the tourists there is faked postwar - watchtowers, even the famous gas chamber."
He added: "In my opinion now the real killing operations took place at the Reinhardt camps west of the Bug river. In the three camps here [Sobibor, Belzec, and Treblinka] Heinrich Himmler's men (mostly Ukrainian mercenaries) killed possibly as many as 2.4 million in the two years up to October 1943. There is now nothing to be seen of the Reinhardt camps, neither stick nor stone, so few tourists go there. I have visited all four sites earlier this year."
Pressed as to whether this change undermined his previous stance, Mr Irving replied: "It is a crystallisation of my view." Asked if he now accepts there had been a Holocaust against the Jewish people he said he was "not going to use their trade name". He added: "I do accept that the Nazis quite definitely, that Heinrich Himmler, organised and directed a programme, a clandestine programme, for the liquidation of European Jews ... and that in 1942-43 alone over 2.5 million Jews were killed in those three camps." He added that Hitler was "completely in the dark" about the programme.

In the CODOH thread, Wahrheit and Laurentz Dahl speculate how Irving arrived at his figure:
Wahrheit:

Irvign appears to believe a document suggesting 2.4 million Jews killed up to Oct. 43 in Poland. What precise document this is, who wrote it, regarding what, why he believes 80% of it etc.. remains unclear.
Yet the Hoefle telegram only accounts for 1,274,166 Jews up to Dec. 42, or about 50% of Irving's estimate. Yes, there is a gap of some 10 months, but wheres the evidence that makes up this other half?

Laurentz Dahl:

I have never heard of a document mentioning the 2,4 million figure. Perhaps Irving has added the Hoefle figures to his estimates for Auschwitz + Einsatzgruppen. I think Irving believes the Chelmno story too, by the way.
It would be great to have Mr. Irving discussing the issue here on CODOH but I don't expect him to show up.

I believe Irving got the number from the Korherr report:
Items number 1 to 5 list the various places from which Jews were deported.
The most important is number 4:

4. Transportation of Jews from the eastern provinces to the Russian East: .....1 449 692 Jews

Of these, 1 274 166 were sifted through the camps in the General government (in other words, through Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor, and to a small extent through Lublin / Majdanek.) And 145 301 of the 1 449 692 who were deported from the eastern provinces to the Russian East were sifted through "the camps in the Warthegau", which seems to refer to Chelmno / Kulmhof.
At the end of number 5 Korherr lists the grand total of all deported Jews:

Evacuations total (incl. Theresienstadt and incl. special treatment)........... 1 873 549 Jews w./o Theresienstadt........ 1 786 356

This is the sum of Jews who were transported from the eastern provinces to the Russian East (item number 4) and all the other Jews who were deported from other places.
1 873 549 incl. Theresianstadt 1 786 356 without Theresienstadt
But then comes item number 6:

6. In addition, according to data from the Reichssicherheitshauptamt there is the evacuation of... 633 300 Jews in the Russian territories incl. the former Baltic countries since the beginning of the Eastern Campaign.

So you have to add these 633 300 Jews to the grand total at the end of number 5:
1 873 549 + 633 300 = 2,506,849 Jews (incl. Theresienstadt) => 2.5 million Jews 1 786 356 + 633 300 = 2,419,656 without Theresienstadt => 2.4 million Jews
There's your 2,419,656 number, and there are Irving's 2.4 or 2.5 million Jews.
But where did you get the 2,419,656 / the famous 2.4 million from?

So the total evacuation less Theresienstadt, plus the Jews from Russian territory, including the Baltics, since June 1941, make up the number 2, 419, 656.

This number of Jews has to be accounted for, says Irving, Weber and Cole, because they appear in this report. And because this report says the majority were "sifted through" the camps B-S-T and Chelmno, we are to assume they were killed there, because we are also assuming that this "authentic" top-secret report for Himmler and Hitler is using code language, such as "to the East" meaning extermination/death ... and "special handling" also meaning extermination/death.

David Irving says Hitler was "in the dark", so maybe the code language was used to keep Hitler from knowing what Himmler knew, hahaha.

And we need to also keep in mind that Irving, Cole etc. are careful not to say these Jews were gassed, only murdered, yet the holo historiography is clear that almost all the "murder" was carried out in "gas chambers." Seems to me they could really get tripped up in a PROPER debate because of the huge number of bodies involved. Of course, they know that.

It irks me now that  David Irving has been wasting everyone's time for several years, just for his own perceived personal benefit and his bank account. No wonder the revisionists who really understand this are totally disgusted with him.

Schleusen is used for transportation. Sifting through is not the 100% correct term. Durch = through.
 
To pass through the Panama Channel by ship, one has to go through the Schleuse in order to even the different water levels.
 
The camps here were the places to change the trains from the Central European train format to the Russian format, right?
 
If so, durchschleusen is 100% changing from one railway format to another.
 
Schleusen can also mean to smuggle people -over- a border illegally, such as what is happening from Mexico to the US. But first of all, smuggling of people over the border is designed to keep people alive, just have them accross the border. And secondly, it is the German government doing it and they deem this expulsion legal. And that is schleusen -über- (over/across) not schleusen durch (through). These are different terms like "to look over" and "to look through" are.
http://www.dict.cc/?s=Schleusen
http://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schiffsschleuse
 
When I read durchschleusen, I noticed no code word possibility at all. Sonderbehandlung maybe, but then there is also Sonderzug, chartered train, a very clear term without double meaning used only in transportation.
http://www.dict.cc/?s=Sonderzug
 
I guess, you can make anything you like of certain terms if it is used by evil Nazis. Leader is code for Misleader, Wehrmacht (literally defense force) is code for "Offensive Force", Hitler's love for animals is code for having a sexual relationship with Blondie, Männerbund is code for gay parades etc etc.
 
It's a sick mentality projected onto the "Nazis", as if everything about them is one complete surreal nightmare. 
  

One more possible meaning: sifting through but through a funnel more precisely. 

Excellent job on dissecting the Korherr report, Carolyn and company. One facet that could be looked into is Jewish immigration- to actually find those missing Jews. If we could dig up the records of Jews entering Palestine-Israel from 1943- 1948, we could probably accont  for at least a quarter of the alleged rheinhard camp victims. Same goes for Soviet statistics, the USA, Australia, Argentina etc- those who did not die in the war from gunshots, disease, starvation, old age, etc ended up abroad. The emigre population archive stats could help solve the issue once and for all, if reliable reports exist. Maybe this work has already been done, if so, then forgive my reppeating the obvious.
 
 David irving was prgressing towards the factual understanding of the Holocasut myth until his arrest about seven yrs ago- I think pressure was brought to bear upon him, he become compromised in some way, and thus he experienced  the need to roll back towards the midstream orthodox  view.
 

As I understand it, Putin has now closed the Russian national archives relative to WWII, at least to "unapproved" persons -- which would be revisionists. This is a blow to the work of Mattogno-Graf-Kues, who hoped to find still more evidence of European Jews in Russia.

How any friend of National-Socialism, or even any revisionist, can defend Putin (as even you do, Dave) is beyond me, but they do. The man is playing for whatever is best for Russia as a geo-political entity, as he sees it [very much like the US, in fact]. He doesn't care about anything else.  http://www.destroyzionism.com/

I think we are getting off track here with this discussion of how many were killed.
The real question is show me where and how they were killed if you truly believe whoever that presents their high numbers, or any number actually.
Ok, 2.5 million or whatever number killed?   Where and how, and even bettter where are they buried. And don't say they were burned to ash and dispersed to the four winds.
I have problems with high numbers no matter what camp they come out of.
Like it's an easy thing to put together all thses numbers.....

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