Saturday Afternoon: Hitler's "fatal mistakes" and Germany's "mixed people"

It was hilarious to me to hear from Bob that six tribes in Germany constitute a mixed race of Germans, more diverse than any other European country.  Just saying.  It really did sound like a variation on somebody's crackpot theories.  And it really did not make common sense to me.

My big dream for radio is I would like everybody not to interrupt each other when talking on the radio.  Literally, everybody needs to learn to curb enthuasiams so as to give the listening audience a chance to listen and to think.  That's really the polite way to make headway, and yet it's just all too rare nowadays.  

Ruthlless witih the truth, yes, but not with each other, I say.    

"The German folk consists of several races: Nordic, Eastern (Alpine), Dinaric, East Baltic, Phalian, and Western (Mediterranean). (cf. Guenther, Brief Racial Study of the German Folk). The concepts Germanic, Romance, Slavic, etc., delineate not separate races but language- and folk-groups, which certainly also exhibit a distinctive racial imprint." -Hansjoerg Maennel, The Political Primer of National-Socialismhttp://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com/2009/12/race-according-to-nsdap.html

family - clan (Sippe) - tribe (Stamm) - population - race or subspecies (Rasse oder Unterart)

The family is the physical breeding unit and the population is the breeding pool.

There are 3 races (subspecies): caucasoid, mongoloid and negroid (negroid may be another species H. ergaster).

Populations of caucasoids are germanic, keltic, slavic etc.

"Alpine", "dinaric" etc are traits of populations.

Volk is a cultural unit, but based on tribes and a dominant population.

Bob seems intent on expanding 'worthy whiteness' by attacking Nordicism plus the Germans.  If the Germans are divied into several tribes, so what? Germans are still Germans, one basic people, speaking one language even if its different in Vienna or in the Saar. They all were targeted  by Allied bombs too.  Bob, or Wolf or whatver, denies the obvious- for the last 350 yrs or more, most of the great intellectual and cultural achievments  have been products of "Nordics"  these achievments  all stem from a tight geographic zone and its diaspora.  We dont have much to thank for coming from the peripheral edges of Europe (during this recent era) . Also, the Nordic physical ideal is sought after by all the worlds peoples- Asian girsl and Africans dye their hair blond or have surgery to be more 'Nordic' looking.   Its just natural to want this, to look like the great ones...

Germany is more diverse than anywhere else in Europe? Ha. Related German tribes somehow make Germany diverse? No. 

I think France, Southern Itlay, Spain, and the southern Balkans are way more ethncially and racially diverse than Gerrmany.  The Romans pumped black slaves into Italy, the Arabs and Berbers colonized by force parts of France and Spain, Jews became well established in Spain, Turks settled in the Balkans, after the Mongols ....... Germanic tribes swept through Spain and France too, so no, its these countries, not Germany, which has been histroically 'diverse'

Setting up the customs exchange in Germanic lands  in the 19th century was more  due to the various Germanic principalities being politically fractured by the breakup of the Holy Roman Empire and the  aftermaths of this breakup , rather than Germans being so distinct from each other that they needed this  trade mechaninsm to overcome their alleged huge racial ethnic differences...Bob/Wolf  is flat out wrong.

I thought the show went well. You had some fundamental differences. I don't really think that there was a need to attack one another over them though. The debate probably should have been moderated in hindsight.

It was disheartening to see WWS giving that half-bearded degenerate Lindstedt any air on his show today. Why he would allow an alleged child molester on his show is beyond me. The guy doesn't even hold a valid ordination in his own faith. He's just some nutjob that crawled out of a mental institution and called himself "Pastor".

What Mr. Bob maybe hasn't taken into consideration is that according to August Heinrich Bauer and Peter D. Stachura's works, the very leftist class concious socialist faction of the Strassers were not only funded by heavy industry as well, but they were financed by the Jewish head of the R.A.G Paul Silverberg. Gregor Strasser also received an anual fundung in the beginning of spring 1931 from other heavy industries. 

I don't know if Hitler knew about it, but I'm sure those who supported the Strasser brothers didn't. It seems like they also had their own secrets after all. 

I also noted that WWS discusses this topic with one Mike Sledge. Is this the type of "fact finders" that he associates with?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOsZ-gxbxnw

Bob and Carolyn sound like an old married couple. Being smarties, they both waited for the safety of retirement and collecting a pension before starting their movements.

Seriously, you've got one person admitting to read questionable Wikipedia articles, the other is misquoting and admitting he doesn't remember where he read or heard what he's trying to repeat.

This program should be removed entirely.

What does a customs union between German states have to do with ethnicity? If the Netherlands (plural) would be a confederation as Germany was for centuries, instead of a union, would that make Nederlanders less Dutch? Bob also doesn't really understand the Greater vs Lesser German question. If Thuringia, instead of Austria, would stay out of the German Union, that would not constitute Thuringia less or non-German. Austria is of the Bavarian tribe but has been politically separate for some periods for varying reasons. 

Today at the DailyStormer, the Eastern European question is asked. Some commenters say that Britain is rich because it robbed the world for centuries. There are two misunderstandings here. First, why did no Eastern European country other than Russia have had an empire? And why are non-colonial Western states, such as Switzerland more successful than Eastern Europeans? Plus colonialism is over now. Germany had colonies only for a few years, long after slavery, and Germany only owned what other Western empires didn't want. The German colonies, other than Cameroon were net losses and were maintained only for prestige.  

And the "Communism is at fault" is not valid either. The DDR was the most successful state of all Soviet states. And Eastern Europe was less developed than Western Europe before Communism in 1917, as well. 

I don't believe that there is anything that Hitler could have done differently, once the war had begun, that would have brought a different outcome. There was too much of an imbalance of resources and production favoring the USSR and USA combined. Adding a few million men to the German side sooner rather than later doesn't fix that.

The only arguable exception that I see was declaring war on the United States in December 1941. It would have been politically awkward for FDR to get the USA directly involved with land forces in the European war without that, but the USA had already been waging an undeclared naval war against Germany for some months, and supplying the USSR with equipment. Without an Anglo-American invasion of Italy and France, the war on the Eastern Front would have dragged on longer. Perhaps with more time and no openly declared war the death of FDR in 1944 would have caused a change in policy. It is hard to tell exactly what would have happened, longterm, if Hitler had not made the conflict overt in December 1942. The prospect of all of Europe being overrun by the USSR might have prompted Truman to let up hostility toward the Germans, since at some time he had taken the position that both sides should be encouraged to wear each other down.

The biggest mistake wasn't made by Germany, but above all by Britain, which had the possibility to make peace even after the fall of France and thus to retain the British Empire but chose not to do so. Hitler's calculations in 1939 were based on the assumption that Britain and France would not commit suicide in order to destroy Germany, but the fact that the FDR Administration and Jews were pushing them behind the scenes meant that they would do things that made no sense. Hitler predicted in his third book of Mein Kampf that if Britain did not ally with Germany, the world would end up being dominated by the USA rather than the British Empire, which he considered a turn for the worse.

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Posted by DanielS on November 19, 2014, 01:40 PM | #

There was a point in the interview when GW was citing Hitler’s capacity to inspire great enthusiasm..

I don’t know that enthusiasm to that extent is good of itself - and especially not for Hitler of course who, in the end, betrayed the motivating genesis for the participation that became swept up in that sort of enthusiasm.

The motivating genesis of Hitler’s popular support was in appeal to a leftist means, where the whole people are the class - I advocate the same concept in that part:http://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/leftism_as_a_code_word_part_1_the_white_left

In that manner, with people united, the rank and file is accountable, has less reason to betray, and has motive to remain loyal and participate as they will have their fair necessity and incentive to go beyond duty where they can mage it.

But especially as vigil is maintained toward any potential betrayal of the powerful elite.

Hitler betrayed his elite capacity exactly with imperial and supremacist aspirations while demonstrably betraying the trust, authentic and honest motivation of the rank and file in the night of the long knives.

That’s why the level of enthusiasm for him was dubious - because he went beyond accountability. He had only used the notion of uniting the full group of people as a fully accountable leftist class in order to gain popularity among Germans. It was that holistic notion of the nation as synonymous with the leftist class union, and the popular understanding of that, which provided the authentic motivation.

In his exceptionalism from the class Hitler betrayed that sincerely motivated participation.

Carolyn, I have just listened to your exchange with Bob, and I would like to congratulate you on rertaining your cool with a fellow who has lost the plot.

You are quite right, Bob is being so 'ordinary', and his language has put me off him because he embodies the classic example of "wisdom through hindsight".

Well done - and Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

Fredrick

Let me inform Bob of a book, in German, by Georg Kausch, which dispells his nonsense about the Germanic people - 

Die unbequeme Nation

- which traces the religious and economic war against the Germans!

http://www.amazon.de/Die-unbequeme-Nation-Georg-Kausch-ebook/dp/B00A4KKYXE