The Heretics' Hour: Are White Males Hooked on Weakness?

Published by carolyn on Mon, 2012-06-18 19:04
 
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June 18, 2012

Severus Niflson discusses his article "Hooked on Weakness" at his blog Niflson's Mind with host Carolyn Yeager.  Some of the points made are that White Nationalists must overcome their weaknesses, their bad habits and addictions (like alcohol). They must put away their toys, read books and be rational adults, taking on the responsibility of marriage and children. They must think in terms of strategy, always seeing themselves as fighters in a war. Severus distinguishes between White men and White Nationalist men. Some books recommended by Severus: 

  • Mayflower by Nathaniel Philbrick (mainstream book on the pilgrims and the natives)
  • Might is Right by Ragnar Redbeard
  • The False Assumptions of Democracy by Anthony Ludovici
  • Patriarchia: The Natural Power of Kings by Robert Filmer

Several email questions were answered during the 2 hour program.

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34 Responses

  1. Hilmar

    June 19, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    “Might is Right” by Ragnar Redbeard/Jack London is one of the most powerful books I have ever read.
    It’s available in PDF-format here in the richly illustrated, 1999, Katja Lane – Ron McVan edition(!).
    It makes the top-10 of must-reads for Aryan Loyalists. Right alongside such immortal works as “Mein Kampf” by Hitler; “The Origins of Christianity” by Oliver; “Germansk Mytologi og Verdensanskuelse” by Vikernes; “Also Sprach Zarathustra” by Nietzsche; “Pan” by Hamsun; “Man & Technics” by Spengler; “Deceived, Damned and Defiant” by Lane; “Gold in the Furnace” by Devi, and “Culture of Critique” by Macdonald.
    Just a few lines from it will radically expand most minds of the required perceptive capacity immediately.

  1. Luke

    June 19, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    I haven’t listened to this podcast yet, but allow me to go on the record as answering this question with a very strong ‘heck yea’.

    I have an older white male friend, former military buddy – who’s in his early 70s, and over the last 10 years – our friendship has grown increasingly strained. The reason? Racial issues and his white racial cowardice in the face of what is clearly an enormous existential threat as a result of our nation being flooded with millions of non-Whites.

    I try to discuss this issue with this White man, and point out the incredible dangers that will befall the White European people if we are reduced to a minority and then subjugated to being ruled over by a motley collection of non-Whites, all of whom are open and unapologetic about their hostile and resentful attitudes towards the White majority. This pathetic excuse for a White man will start squirming and start babbling about how ‘awful it was that our White ancestors met and defeated the Indians’ and ‘stole this nation’ – so, why should the White man today not surrender and let his nation be stolen from him?

    This guy is too stupid and uneducated to be familiar with the Ice Age era archeological evidence that has been found in North America which proves that Caucasians were here before the first known presence of the Indians – or aware that our White ancestors were exterminated by those Indians. Which basically means that our White ancestors simply won the rematch, and laid claim to North America as its victorious conquerors – which is how EVERY example of ethnic competition has worked since the dawn of recorded history. In his pathetic, disgusting mental state of mind – having been brainwashed by a lifetime of sitting on his fanny in front of his electronic brainwashing device and absorbing thousands of hours of jewish anti-white, white-self-loathing, white demonization, and white racial guilt tripping propaganda – this White man has been conditioned for death of his own race and people. He’s been emasculated, castrated, and reduced to the sickening level of being driven to apologize for the victories of his, and our White ancestors over their ethnic competition.

    What other race apologizes for having met a challenge from an ethnic competitor and wound up being victorious over that competitor? This sort of attitude makes me want to gag and throw up my last meal. Make no mistake, this is the mindset of a loser and not a winner.

    One last thing. After several failed marriages, all to white females, this old guy latched onto an Asian woman and they’ve been married for 20 plus years. This woman is very personable, and I must admit that I like her and appreciate the fact that she’s taken good care of my old friend – who does need to be taken care of, since he is from the generation of men who were almost helpless at running the inside of a house. But, I can’t help but suspect that this crossing of the racial lines – and his corresponding and sickening reduction in White racial pride and White racial loyalty is connected to his decision to race mix.

    He can no longer stand up for the legitimate ethnic interests of his own race and people – without worrying about offending his non-White wife, who wants to import as many of her Asian family members as she can into the USA.

    Is there any better argument against race mixing than what I’ve just described?

    Whites cannot have divided loyalties and expect to survive. We are down to 8-10% of the world’s entire population and it is time to circle the wagons. Miscegenation is a death sentence for White European people and this practice must be discouraged and frowned upon.

  1. Chechar

    June 19, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    So true: the core is not genocidal levels of immigration or the jews owning the media, but the altogether degenerate creatures that whites have become at both sides of the Atlantic. William Pierce was one of the very few ones who saw through this reality.

    Last weeks I became interested in the whys of the fall of the Roman Empire and yes: extreme wealth is toxic for a culture. Just as wild cats’ pointed ears (such as Caracals’) drop when domesticated, losing all their wild beauty, men too lose their nerve when comfort takes over culture. We are designed to fight, not to entertain ourselves to death.

    Again, yes: whites must become warriors, barbarous, going full Spartan by means of rejecting TV for adults and videogames for children (I would go as far as rejecting present-day Hollywood and even the school system).

    To put it bluntly: I only feel comfortable with the characters in Pierce or Covington’s novels and very uncomfortable with virtually all WN websites. While I feel respect for academics like MacDonald, after the coming financial Armageddon angry whites will only be listening to much angrier voices than those of AltRight, AmRen, OD, MR, CC and more.

    We vanguardists may have the caliber of the characters in those revolutionary novels, but no revolution is made without a minimum mass of people. I think Linder is right when he says that, as long as the goods continue to flow to these degenerates, no real awakening will be possible.

    Unless Mark is right that lone wolves will soon be acting out their inner rage, I’m afraid that vanguardists will still have to dwell inside the trenches for a while… until the dollar crashes.

  1. Armor

    June 19, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    I haven’t finished yet listening to that discussion with Severus Niflson. But I disagree on a particular point. Here is a very approximate transcription starting at 47:20:

    White Nationalists are constantly going out and telling people :
    Don’t you realize that :
    - White people are being genocided
    - Jews own the media
    etc.

    All these subjects are important (…). But the thing is, if you let go of touching on the other issues, those primal issues that most White Nationalists ignore… The primal element that basically ties everything together, is the fact that life is a struggle… What about addressing these primal core elements over character, that is flawed ?

    And the idea that White people’s character is flawed is the main theme of the interview.

    Well, if the character of White people is flawed, maybe we can try to fix that once we are in power. Much of what is wrong with our character is due to government influence, and especially Jewish influence. I think it is a much easier task to get rid of the Jews who own the media and government than to fix the character of White people while the Jews are still in power. The internet now makes it possible to have radio stations made for White people by White people. It is a more effective use of our time than trying to change people’s character.

    We must discuss other things than the Jews or we will turn crazy. But most people still don’t know about the JQ, or don’t realize how critical it is. Most people still refuse to see that the government is deliberately replacing them with non-whites. White Nationalists themselves don’t understand everything about the Jewish problem and must go on trying to figure out how it works. I think the internet is going to have an impact and will eventually make it possible to resist Jewish power.

    Today we live in a soft dictatorship. The reason why White democracies turned into dictatorships is not that people’s character was flawed. The main problem is that the elites have been bought or co-opted by a small clique. We have to address that specific problem first.

    In North-Korea, I’m sure that the character of most people is flawed too. But they won’t get rid of the dictatorship by trying to correct people’s flaws.

  1. Hilmar

    June 19, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    Excellent show.
    Credit to Carolyn and Severus for staying constructive and wasting about 0% time on immaterial gossip.

    Severus made sound observations and arguments throughout.

    An important one has to do with beer-belly white nationalists misrepresenting “the movement”. –I.e., self-criticism.

    In Russia for instance, you don’t become member of a hardcore nationalist group by simply showing up (or signing an application form). The russians routinely subject candidates to rigorous physical initiation tests, before they would even dream of letting anyone in. This way they sieve out cowards, zog-agents and sluggards.
    Similarly in the West; we should aim to restrict, rather than enlarge “membership”.
    That’s the only path to attracting quality associates, and, paradoxically, also the only politically sound way to grow a successful mass-following in the long run.

    In everyday life, dedicated Aryan loyalist should be extremely mindful of this observation. Guys as well as girls.
    You can easily turn out to be a liability more than an asset, if you, for instance, spout WN rhetoric in public without paying close attention to your own appearance.
    No-one can be expected to constantly look like Reinhardt Heydrich or Eva Braun, but if you look slovenly or unkempt while speaking for the cause of WN –you actually speak against it.

    In the West, I’m affraid, we have witnessed an unfortunate, but undeniable, dysgenic trend developing inside the so-called WN movement.
    We need to start rejecting people, rather than absorbing them uncritically. I.Q. testing could be one possibility in this regard.
    The sad but true fact is, that western WN has been unrivaled in attracting society’s absolute losers for decades.
    No mystery, then, why we’re going nowhere. This has to change. And it is.

    Tatoos; alcoholism; drugs; criminality; promiscuity. Those behaviors would have secured open-ended, free lodging in the nearest labour-camp during the Third Reich.
    Why should we accept them now?
    Simply being of caucasian extraction and wishing to join, is not enough.

    True, a man needs the skills of a merciless warrior at certain points in his life, but that certainly doesn’t mean he has to drink himself senseless every weekend, waste his money on the vanity of “masculine” tatoos, and, generally, behave like a nigger with pale skin.

    A warrior is disciplined, not boorish.
    A warrior picks his targets carefully.
    A warrior knows the power of stealth.

  1. Carolyn

    June 19, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    Hi Armor,

    Let me just say that Severus specified (which I did not do in my title for the program) that he is always speaking to and about “White Nationalists” and not “White men” in general. He says all those that call themselves White Nationalists are the warriors for our race and must live up to a higher standard to be effective.

  1. Chechar

    June 19, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    how “awful it was that our White ancestors met and defeated the Indians” and “stole this nation” – so, why should the White man today not surrender and let his nation be stolen from him? —Luke

    Ask your friend if it would have been moral for the Europeans to hand an entire continent to Amerindians who practiced infanticide, child sacrifice and even cannibalism. Tell him that by omitting the dark side of the Amerindian cultures whites have been brainwashed into a guilt trip.

  1. Carolyn

    June 19, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    Anthony Ludovico on “Homosexuality, The Law, and Public Sentiment” (from 1951)has a lot to say concerning the rightness to hold members of the “ruling class” to a higher standard … not lower. http://www.anthonymludovici.com/homosex.htm This is just an excerpt:

    For these reasons, the general public has for the last sixty years been inclined to look on prosecutions for homosexuality differently and certainly more emotionally than on other prosecutions, and very many people cannot think of a charge against a homosexual without assuming that some injustice is being, or has been done. It is as if the constitutional conditions predisposing a male person to homosexual practices (for female homosexuals, although very common, are by English law not liable to prosecution) were popularly at least held always to be accompanied by mitigating factors — high mental gifts on the one hand and disease or impulses unamenable to control on the other.
    Now this is obvious nonsense, and when Dr. Ward-Smith pointed out that the apologists for the homosexual pervert assume that his sexual desire is too overpowering to be controlled, few would deny that the charge is deserved. Why, for instance, should Dr. Humphrey Osmond take it for granted that the case under notice concerned “an old man unable to control himself”? The assumption is all the more unwarranted seeing that in his plea for mercy the accused had assured the judge that “there was no chance of such a thing happening again” — a submission which implied not only that his volition would in future operate against any such indulgence in homosexual practices, but which also indirectly revealed that the crimes which brought him before the court had been committed by an act of will and that, therefore, there was in his case no pathological suspension of volition. But it is such instances of a priori reasoning as Dr. Humphrey Osmond supplies which support the contention here made, and maintained by Dr, Ward-Smith, that there is in the apologists of homosexual perverts a parti pris resting on the assumption that all homosexual impulses whatsoever are uncontrollable.

  1. Chechar

    June 19, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    See also my latest thread on homosexuality here.

  1. Tanstaafl

    June 20, 2012 at 2:11 am

    So true: the core is not genocidal levels of immigration or the jews owning the media, but the altogether degenerate creatures that whites have become at both sides of the Atlantic.

    Excusing jews, blaming Whites. Your big idea is that the jew-owned media doesn’t pump out enough of this, so you come here to pump it too?

  1. Franklin Ryckaert

    June 20, 2012 at 3:19 am

    When you are talking about “guilt” it is not a question of either…or, but of both…and. Both Jews and Whites are guilty of the present situation. The Jews for what they are doing, the Whites for letting it happen to them. For Jews it is a matter of character. That cannot change because character cannot change. Proof is that they always have behaved in that way. For Whites it is not a matter of a flawed character but of systematic misleading and of degeneration. These are things that can be changed. Misleading can be changed by reeducation (that’s what we are doing here), degeneration can be changed by a change in lifestyle. ( that’s what we should promote). Jewish machinations can be defeated by a strong dedicated group of Whites. We don’t need even a big mass of them, after all the Jews are only a small minority.

  1. Chechar

    June 20, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    When you are talking about “guilt” it is not a question of either…or, but of both

    That’s exactly the point that I’ve tried to make, the twofold etiology of western malaise, and perhaps it’s the same point that Severus tried to make in the show (btw, Severus: are you the same “Severus” who used to comment at TOO?).

    That whites are to blame too for the West’s darkest hour is evident when rereading the history of Rome. I have received no comments addressing this issue in my latest blog article but I guess a subject such as this is off topic in this thread? Anyway, this is the link to my latest post on Ancient Rome and how whites horribly screwed it up 1,600 years ago without the help of jews.

  1. Tanstaafl

    June 20, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    whites are to blame … whites horribly screwed it up … without the help of jews

    We can attend any school, open any newspaper, turn on any channel on the TV, and get this line of thinking. It isn’t new. It isn’t uncommon. In fact I’d say this is why Whites are so oblivious to it, and why so many regurgitate it, even as it kills our spirit.

    It’s one thing to be positive, to exort Whites to be better. “Buck up! Be aware! Be strong! Be proud! Stick together!” This reflects a sense of empathy and common cause.

    It’s quite another to repeat the jewish narrative, disingenuously dressed up like it’s something new – “Whites suck, and Whites have always sucked! The other team? They’re not important! Forget about the here and now – what happened somewhere else, centuries ago proves that the core problem is White creatures! Whites just suck!” This reflects nothing but antipathy, malevolence even. It doesn’t inspire anything but resignation and demoralization.

  1. Niflson

    June 20, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    Here is my audio comment/response to some of the feedback on this comment section on the show!

    http://soundcloud.com/niflson/answer-to-comments-at-heretics

    Thanks for listening!

  1. Carolyn

    June 20, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    I get dibs on first reply! LOL.

    That is a different way of replying! I just want to repeat what I said before, that Severus is talking about what we say to each other, not to White people in general. Within the movement, we have to acknowledge our faults … whereas when Tan speaks of the Jewish media telling White people they’re bad, guilty, etc., that is not correct and should not be tolerated or agreed to by Whites. That’s how I see it, and probably people should be more precise in just what group of Whites they’re talking about.

    One thing I will add: Severus, the problem with this manner of communicating is that it’s hard for folks here to reply to you. Your words are not on the page for us to see and be reminded of. We have to remember what you said. Not so good.

  1. Tanstaafl

    June 21, 2012 at 4:15 am

    Severus/Niflson, Armor’s point is that we cannot expect much improvement in White character as long as we labor under hostile rule actively corroding that character. He suggests that confronting the hostile rule should come first. You implied he was advocating leadership by psychotics, then you simply reiterated your own view:

    I don’t think it’s possible to have a movement that works if at the same time we are flawed. We have to improve ourselves and become better leaders and then we can win.

    Not helpful. We are flawed. We are under hostile rule. We must face and overcome both problems. We can eliminate all of our other flaws and still lose if we fail to recognize our opponents or the nature of their power.

    the truth is the only reason these people [jews] have any access and any power is because White people have allowed it, right we have weakened as a people and therefore the consequence is the situation that we live in. We are very powerful as a people, intellectually and militarily and every other way so if we are in trouble then alot of it is our fault.

    Here you make it clear with qualifiers such as “only” and “any” that you think Whites, and Whites alone, are responsible for the current situation. This contradicts your other, more even-handed statements. It may also explain why you have misconstrued my position as the opposite extreme.

    I think the truth is that few Whites today think or act as Whites. Whites who have in the past allowed jews access to power have done so either because they didn’t recognize jews as the Other, or believed it wrong to do so. At any rate they have had little or no idea what harm would come from sharing and ultimately losing power to them. It seems to me the key flaw here is that Whites have not been Other-wise enough.

    The flaw you see however is in Whites who pay this too much attention:

    We can’t just go out there and mention the jews the jews the jews, yeah we can mention other people, but we can’t be childish and just think that it’s all to blame on other people and by magically addressing the issue of their existence that suddenly our character will become magically well, because I don’t agree with that.

    I submit there is no more important question for a nationalist than “who is us?” Without a clear understanding of this, especially in our leaders, our other flaws are of little or no consequence.

  1. Hilmar

    June 21, 2012 at 4:15 am

    Need to clarify a few matters in my posts above.

    Concerning Might is Right:

    The PDF file I linked to appears to have a glitch on pages 28-29 (very important passages). Here is a non-faulty version.

    Concerning my somewhat harsh and non-euphemistic description of beer-belly nazis; the “Hollywood Nazi Scene”, henceforth H.N.S. by abbreviation:

    I find it justified to be un-apologetic and ruthless in my criticism because:

    1. There is ample and hard evidence proving that hollywood-nazis, and indeed most membership-based WN groups are zog-infiltrated.

    2. The fake theatrics of the H.N.S. ensnares young Aryan loyalists with honest intentions into cul-de-sacs of boorishness, superficiality and, worst of all, self-incrimination.

    Note: I will affirm for the record, however, that many skinheads, for example, are untainted by the H.N.S., and represent a genuine and uncorrupted; productive branch of Aryan loyalism.

    Aside from these qualifications, I stand by my words in the comments above.

    It is positively un-Aryan to drink alcohol, or otherwise self-intoxicate, to excess; to desecrate one’s God-given body with vain and ephemeral ink-designs (not unlike the savages of the tropics); to indulge in promiscuity and/or boorish uncleanliness.

    The grave transgressions of historical Aryan customs and traditional virtue set aside, the above-mentioned behavior is also financially costly, especially if indulged in over longer periods.
    Thus it indirectly deprives genuine Aryan loyalist advocacy groups of critically needed funds, to partake in, and thus necessarily, spend money on, H.N.S.-behavior.
    Everytime you buy a conventionally brewed and marketed beer, for instance, irrespective of whether you imbibe it or not, you actively engage in accumulative sponsorship for zog (same scenario with cigarettes; movies; betting; computergames; fashionable clothing; new cars; medicine; porn; drugs; fast-food, e.t.c.).

    The ruinous results of participating in the suicidal behavior-memes of the wretched H.N.S., thus appear both on the personal level for the individual white person, having been deceitfully led astray from traditional Aryan virtue, and on the collective level of the entire white community by a. Setting a bad example to follow (giving white advocacy a bad reputation), and b. Indirectly investing in the genocidal activities of zog.inc.

  1. katana

    June 21, 2012 at 9:43 am

    Niflson

    Tan’s comment above nails some downsides of your views.

    I haven’t had time to listen to the podcast yet, so perhaps this comment needs to be revisited by me. I did a quick scan of your blog and it contains interesting material. I recommend people to take a good look.

    In your blog you talk about how Whites must become ‘barbarians’, Spartans, etc., again. I agree, we must regain our aggressive spirit. This is good. But …

    Whites have been turned into their weakened, neutered state as a result of objective causes. The jews, over a long period of time, have been poisoning White societies’, ‘mind well’. These people have not sought to match us in battle with the Spartan sword or spear, but rather, in secrecy, destroying us by stealth with poisonous ideas.

    A village suffering great sickness as a result of its wells being contaminated must focus not just on urging villagers to become ‘real’ men again, but rather, on identifying and taking action against the true cause of the problem, the poisoners, aka, the jews. As we identify the problem and start to solve it we will move towards the type of man you admire.

    The root cause of our problems, is a parasite that exploits Whites’ nature.

    ————————-

    Take action: talk to your family, friends, neighbors and so on, about this destructive force.

  1. Carolyn

    June 21, 2012 at 11:55 am

    Tanstaafl,

    Thanks for clarifying the issues so well. I would like to make one point:

    I think the truth is that few Whites today think or act as Whites. Whites who have in the past allowed jews access to power have done so either because they didn’t recognize jews as the Other, or believed it wrong to do so

    Many wealthy, ruling-class Whites allowed Jews access to power because they wanted the Jew’s financial cleverness to work for them … or to get them out of financial difficulties they had fallen into because of their own extravagance. So this was a weakness. They did recognize Jews as Other and didn’t consider that wrong at all … but they made exceptions in order to serve their own personal interests.

    True, at this time (the 16th-17th Centuries?) it seemed that Jews could never gain the power that they have. Just as Americans in the 1950′s couldn’t imagine that Negroes, and other non-white groups, could gain control of the US and we would have a Negro president in 2008. In 2007, I was still shocked to think we could have a black man in the White House. But it happens because of personal interests superceding group interests in the beginning, then losing sight of the distinction between “us” and “not us.” It follows that “who is us?” (and putting “us” before “other”) is the most important question to ask and understand. But it also follows that our flaws have huge consequences as to whether we can do this.

    Recently, Keith Preston interviewed a black man (former Black Nationalist) on VoR network, who is an associate of his at “Attack the System,” an anarchist website/organization. So he apparently sees this black as “us” because of their ideological similarity. He is able to present this view on a proclaimed pro-White network presumably because the black man is a “nationalist.” I do not know what the reaction has been, if any, but this is an example of White weakness, not Jewish intrigue, except in the broadest sense.

  1. Niflson

    June 21, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    http://soundcloud.com/niflson/blame-me

    Sorry for the type of audio response but I find it great to share in twitter and thus involve others in the discussion.

    Generally, my point is more on the side of practicality and honesty. The honest truth is that we have plenty of blame for our current situation, we could all make a list. This isn’t to remove blame on other people, but to be reasobnable and forthright. Anybody who claims that all of our issues are to be laid on the feet of Jews is basically crossing the line into the realm of religion and faith, which in all honesty isnt my favorite area since it crosses from rational into emotional.

    As I say on my new audio, if I had to choose between extremes, I would assume full responsibility for our peril and not the other way around because of the positive consequences of it. Again, I would take said position RHETORICALLY.

    When it comes to the comments regarding my opinion on the state of our movement… I feel like we are spitting straight up. We, WHITE RACIALISTS, already understand the nature of our enemy, at least for the most part. We have to move on and study OUR flaws and overcome them. Again, i was very clear i only address our movement so I don’t understand why anybody would assume otherwise and, then based on said error, comment on what I am saying. I also said on the show that we all have to find our strengths and use them for the cause. If talking about Jews is your forte, more power to you, we all have a role. But, in my opinion, most of us should dedicate some time to our own house cleaning.

    We all agree, JEWS BAD – WHITE GOOD. Now let’s move on and fight this war until we win! :-)

  1. Hilmar

    June 21, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    Carolyn, that V.O.R.-show you mention, “Attack the System”, that always seemed very suspicious, and somehow, just mildly repugnant to me. Even though I never listened to it.
    And now you once again confirm my suspicions by telling of this grotesque interview they did, and their unwarranted association with racial foreigners.
    Now, it’s one thing to entertain some degree of socialistic, and perhaps even revolutionary, anti-capitalist leanings, when considering the exclusive interests of the white race, but to embrace and champion the doctrines of anarchism + derivatives, and try to somehow fuse that into racism through some weird, unlikely hybrid, seems to me very suspicious, and a very circuitous way to state the obvious.

    WHITE INTERESTS + WHITE SOLUTIONS = WHITE SURVIVAL

    No meandering detours into the murky undergrowth of various jewthink schemes needed.
    No approval or cooperation from other racial groups needed.
    Just straight, white, unapologetic, and solution-oriented approaches, thank you very much.

    Again, I cannot thank you enough for rippping the shades from my eyes concerning V.O.R.

    Here is one concrete advice of mine to substantially (not theoretically, or abstractly, or philosophically, or spiritually, or intellectually) advance the cause of white survival:

    Go to this site. Buy some stuff there.

  1. Tanstaafl

    June 21, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    Severus, you’re pushing two conflicting arguments. On one hand you argue that the assignment of blame should be balanced. Then you argue in favor of blaming Whites entirely.

    Also, though you advocate self-criticism, you aim your criticisms primarily at others. And vaguely at that. You attribute only positive motives to yourself – blaming Whites only because you’re fair, honest, true, reasonable, positive, forthright, determined to win. Meanwhile those other guys, whoever they are, are crossing lines, being childish, irrational, emotional.

    “Blame me!” – I’m not sure if this false humility or a guilty conscience.

    Your rationale confuses me, but I think, in all truth, honesty, positivity, etc, that this is because you yourself are confused about what it is you’re trying to do.

  1. Carolyn

    June 21, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    Hilmar,
    Why would I want to waste my money buying the trifles on this page? It would be better used to support fighters for the White cause, for example Vincent Reynouard comes to mind. I discovered (by asking) over a week after my interview program with him that he had received 3 donations so far. All of three!! Out of the many who had downloaded the podcast by then, only three had immediately felt the urge to contribute to a genuine persecution case. I can only hope Vincent has received more money in the mail since then. Urbain Cairat / C.P. 1528 / CH-1820 Montreux / Switzerland

    Who is being supported by this “store” selling kitchy items that no one needs? Dust collectors. To each his own and all that, but thousands and thousands of dollars (and euros) are being wasted by movement members. A lot of money is given to churches, too, including Catholic. Some of that has to be going to missionary work around the world, primarily Africa.

  1.  Hilmar

    June 21, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    Respectfully, I would suggest that you investigate further before jumping to conclusions and calling what I recommend in earnest “trifles”, “kitchy” and “waste”.

    Supporting Monsieur Reynouard, yes, I agree, that could be a very worthwhile investment too.

    What matters is that we channel surplus funds back into Aryan loyalist hands, not which particular Aryan loyalist hands . . .

    You ask me:

    Who is being supported by this “store” selling kitchy items that no one needs?

    You then proceed impetuously and answer yourself:

    Dust collectors

    Well then, I guess you don’t need my answer then.
    You obviously know a lot more about Nordwelt and their customers than I do.

    Well now, I’ll still give you an answer, Miss Yeager.

    Future white progeny, hopefully, and their germanic cultural inheritance, is being supported.

    Please note that I would never recommend anything, of which I did not approve 100% myself, to other white loyalists.

    You can trust my counsel.

  1.  Niflson

    June 21, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    Taanstafl:

    This is exactly the reason I don’t participate in comment sections. Are you aware of how ridiculous and wasteful the discussion has become? Who cares about any of these details, or whether or not you approve of my self criticisms? I was clear… If I had to chose, I chose blaming ourselves (I assume you can deduce this includes me!). I bet you can distinguish between RHETORICAL and reasonable positions. I was quite clear, but then again a lot of us enjoy going in circles and simply trying to find any detail to tear apart for the fun of it. Does this then mean you agree with me? We should blame ourselves? Cause you are definitely blaming me of all sorts of silly things, including not being hard on myself. BLAME ME! was purposeful!

    Or has all of this been instigated by some Jew? :-)

    I will again follow my own custom of not reading nor participating in any of these threads. Anybody who wishes to discuss with me anything, they can call and comment on the live shows or go to teamspeak, I engage everyone there all the time without ever having an issue. Verbal discussion is much more productive because the pitfalls of time are there to stop all “confusion”.

    Again, this is a great example of the issue in our movement.

    Here: I MAKE MISTAKES, I, AS A WHITE MALE, BARE THE BLAME FOR A LOT OF ISSUES THAT AFFLICT OUR PEOPLE. I STRIVE EVERYDAY TO ADDRESS THEM IN MYSELF AND OTHERS. YOU SHOULD AS WELL.

    :-);-) Thanks for listening!

  1. Carolyn

    June 21, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    Okay Hilmar, I admit I wrote something impetuously. But I did look over the site and only found stuff to buy. Stuff that admittedly doesn’t interest me, because for me I would have no use for it.

    Here is a nice article from 1939 on National Socialist interior decoration (of all things) with pictures of items for the home that are dignified, well-designed and have a purpose for the household. http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/interiordecoration.htm I think you will probably like it. Of course these items are the real thing, and are not being copied and sold today as far as I know. But if you found an item from then it would be a rare treasure.

  1. Tanstaafl

    June 22, 2012 at 12:43 am

    Severus/Niflson,

    This is exactly the reason I don’t participate in comment sections. Are you aware of how ridiculous and wasteful the discussion has become? Who cares about any of these details, or whether or not you approve of my self criticisms?

    I don’t argue about anything unimportant.

    What I take away from this exchange is that you don’t take your own rhetoric seriously. You criticize others with great gusto but are uncomfortable with criticism aimed at yourself.

    I was quite clear, but then again a lot of us enjoy going in circles

    You weren’t clear to me. If you want to be more clear you can drop the insinuations and snide cracks.

    Cause you are definitely blaming me of all sorts of silly things

    My criticisms are specific and direct. Be clear and cite one that you consider silly.

    Or has all of this been instigated by some Jew?

    I don’t think this is producing the effect you intend.

    I will again follow my own custom of not reading nor participating in any of these threads. Anybody who wishes to discuss with me anything, they can call and comment on the live shows or go to teamspeak, I engage everyone there all the time without ever having an issue.

    Sounds comfortable. Remember now, save the beer for Vahalla, right?

  1. Euro-American in NJ

    June 22, 2012 at 12:48 am

    Judging by the comments here it seems Carolyn has pointed out that the WN Emperor has no clothes.

    And here my friends is the real problem that Whites face. I myself on a number of ‘White’ friendly boards have been censored and even banned for daring to articulate such a heresy. I was never vulgar, just insisted upon a reason as to why Whites remain frozen on the internet and not out there in real life helping and supporting other Whites.

    This is why the whole WN “movement” needs to be replaced. It has never has occurred to the WN’s that the Jewish lobby and the Zionist model is successful because of real life nepotism. They don’t whine ad nauseam on the net. And they are far more subtle in their racial supremacism.

    And without the adolescent halloween attire, vulgar pontification of their viewpoints and meetings based upon partying rather than sober planning.

    Many have built up the Zionist cabal to be more than Human. This is a fatal mistake for the White community. They can be defeated.

    Whites, and specifically White men need to stop with the creepy bootstraps, survivalist, mercenary ‘lone wolf’ model. They sound like a neocon cackling Hen on talk radio. They weirdness was not present before say..1984.

    Every other ethnicity practices nepotism except for Whites.

    Thanks Carolyn for the great program and wish you the best of luck on your new network.

  1. Hilmar

    June 22, 2012 at 1:27 am

    @ Carolyn.
    My point was to round off my comment with something constructive and concrete; a piece of real-life advice on how the cause of Aryan loyalism can be supported substantially; in the tangible realm, so to speak.
    This could, in my modest opinion, turn out to be a productive habit.

    I still highly recommend Nordwelt to anyone with an interest in actively supporting traditional germanic culture today.

    I will now continue my new practice of ending every comment with a piece of practical advice for my fellow Aryan loyalists.

    Advice #2:

    Turn off your internet-connection completely everytime you leave the house.

  1. Armor

    June 23, 2012 at 1:45 am

    I think the original topic was how White Nationalists should be flawless models. But by now, the discussion has drifted towards White people’s flaws. White people’s flaws and Jewish activism are completely different things. Jewish activism is a strategy. It can be changed or stopped. White people’s flaws are not a strategy. It is claimed that White people have become degenerates. They have become weaker, have lost their morals, and so on. But I don’t believe in complete free will. I can blame someone for his behavior, but not a whole nation. The moral decay has to be caused by outward influences. What has changed during the 20th century is obvious. The traditional rural society has gone, people now live in cities, society has become atomized, everybody has a television, and Jews own the TV stations and much of the government. You cannot reverse that by appealing to sheer will power from every White individual. Where will power is needed is to build a strong political movement.

    Today’s urgent problem is race-replacement, more than the loss of morality. Whether or not White people have become degenerates, most of them still oppose the policy of race-replacement, although not strongly enough. But the government simply ignores them. Fifty years ago, White people had not yet lost their nerve and their morals, and even then, the government was largely ignoring them. Today, we realize better than ever that the government and the media have become our enemies. We now live in a soft dictatorship. But I think it is a very fragile dictatorship that relies on illusion. They are afraid to use violence against us because it would destroy the illusion. So, I think we must attack them at the top.

    Blaming the Jews is not a hobby for stylish intellectuals, but what sounds even less intellectual to me is the nonsensical idea that we should stop criticizing Jews and immigrants because the real problem is decadent White people who let the immigrants in and fail to resist the Jews.

  1. Carolyn

    June 23, 2012 at 11:46 pm

    Armor,
    Thanks for a good comment. I think the problem is with White leadership, and that happens to be what Severus was addressing … he said he considered all White Nationalists as leaders (or they should consider themselves as such).

    But of the few that are seen as leaders (Ward Kendall brought up Mark Weber, KMac, Sunic, DDuke, GJohnson), which ones really criticize the Jews? Well, KMac, Duke and Johnson, but only in a soft way, not usually saying what really needs to be said.

    You say that since we’ve identified the government and the media as our enemies, we should attack them at the top. You mean we should expose and criticize what they’re doing and exactly who is doing it? Should one person be targeted to be gone after unmercifully until they succumb? I have done that with Elie Wiesel, but very few have joined me. The vast majority of allies stand on the sidelines and watch to see what will happen. Or worse, they criticize. And I have never received a dime in financial support. Germar Rudolf called it my hobby.

    But I think it is the right way to go about it. Who should be picked first?

  1. Armor

    July 1, 2012 at 6:13 am

    Carolyn,
    You mentioned KMac. He is obviously doing a great job. He not only wrote books based on research, but also gives interviews and does a lot of blogging to spread the information around in a more accessible format. He is also a great source of knowledge for other activists who have a blunter style. So, I guess the work has to be divided between different kinds of people. It is less daunting to listen to your radio show than to start reading books written by white advocates, or by revisionist historians.

    It’s useful to discuss the approach taken by G.Johnson, Voice of Reason, and other political friends. The obvious danger is that too much criticism may discourage people who are working on our side.

    As for our enemies: I think that focusing on a fraud like Elie Wiesel would be an excellent strategy in France. In France, you are not allowed to say that the holocaust story is nonsense. It is far less dangerous to expose Elie Wiesel as a fraud. Obviously, it’s better if you can do both things at the same time, as in the USA. I like Wiesel’s picture with the caption “Where’s the tattoo?”. I had already read about him on Faurisson’s blog. His blog doesn’t have many new articles, but offers older texts written when the internet wasn’t available. For example, it has a 1986 article with the title “A great false witness: Élie Wiesel”. Of course, you already know all of that. But I only discovered that recently.

  1. Hilmar

    July 5, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    A village suffering great sickness as a result of its wells being contaminated must focus not just on urging villagers to become ‘real’ men again, but rather, on identifying and taking action against the true cause of the problem, the poisoners, aka, the jews.

    Bingo! Hear! Hear!
    Best argument I’ve seen or heard for a long time, Katana.
    I love the village-allegory. –The microcosm par excellence. Makes one almost taste and smell the venomous, putrid water.
    A perfect parable to refer to the historical fact of well-poisoning, while at the same time, imparting a simple, but basically accurate, frame of reference to conceptualize a nebulous and highly complex global trend. –The deliberate spiritual, and physical (chemical), poisoning of the Aryan nations of this world.

    We need to convey basic understandings if we are ever to make our kindred somnambulators realize this. No time for verbose treatises and theoretical intellectualizations.

    Also: solutions!. No time for perpetual regurgitation of frustrations and internecine grudges.
    TWN is generally on the right track, I believe.
    There could, however, be more focus on direct problem-solving and concrete solutions, in my opinion.
    Time is running out.

    I’m not suggesting the advocacy of violence or illegality in any way, but rather, political solutions. Lobbying; organizing; networking; media-strategizing.

All the bolded text in the above thread was put there by me, at the time I posted it, Sept. 9, 2015. I added it to show the ugly nature of Tanstsawful's method of attack against Severus Niflson, my guest on this program. He twists what Severus actually said out of recognition in order to attack him, which is the same way he goes after me since early April 2015.

I also want to point out that in comment #16 Tanstawful wrote this statement:

I think the truth is that few Whites today think or act as Whites.

I believe that this is T.s bugaboo that he projects on others, and which stems from his deep disappointment and regret that HE did not think or act as a White, but married a half-Jewish girl and passed on Jewish blood to his own children ... the only ones he will ever have, considering he says he loves his part-Jewish wife and kids, and will never abandon them.

Another aspect of this is that he projects his own failure onto all pro-White people in order to give himself plenty of company. Well, a lot of us aren't in that company, so don't need to be lectured to by him. How many White people marry jews? Not very many.  I always knew "who is us" and that it didn't include Jews. I learned it in my family as a school girl.